Tuesday, January 30, 2007

Knollenberg Doesn't Think "Healthcare" is an Issue


After writing about how Knollenberg doesn't even list "Iraq" as an issue on his list of issues on his website, I noticed he doesn't list "healthcare" as an issue either.


Knollenberg must be out of touch with this District if he doesn't think "healthcare" is an issue.


6 comments:

SharonRB said...

Maybe he thinks everyone in his district is a highly paid executive with excellent employer-provided benefits. If he does, he's not paying attention.

With Liberty & Justice for all . . . said...

I think his health insurance and pension benefits should be indexed to his district. So if only 50% have health care insurance, his health care insurance should be cut in half. If only 20% have pensions, he should only get 20% of his pension.

That is the only way I can see him caring.

Look at the minimum wage bill -- he voted no on increasing the minimum wage but never voted against having his own salary increase by over $30,000 during the same period.

SharonRB said...

Actually, I think he skipped the minimum wage vote altogether.

What you say here is an interesting way of looking at health care and pension benefits for Congress, though. If all congresscritters were to have their benefits prorated based on something like this, it could really change legislation that passes. However, I can see doing something like this for health care, but not for pensions. Everyone should have health care, regardless of their employment situation, but pensions really are tied even more tightly to one's employer and would never be provided by the government.

Secret Blogger said...

Oh Chet. Come on. Get a clue.

If you want to discuss Congressman Dingell, then start a blog or website about him.

This blog is about Joe Knollenberg.

This blog is about how Joe Knollenberg is a miserable failure.

This blog is about how Joe Knollenberg has not represented the views of the 9th District while in Congress.

This blog is about how Joe Knollenberg votes whatever way George Bush tells him to vote.

This blog is about how Joe Knollenberg voted whatever way Tom Delay and Newt Gingrich told him to vote.


Again, you cannot defend Knollenberg's complete failure to do anything about the healthcare concerns of his constitutents, so you try to point the finger at someone else.

Clearly no amount of logic will disuade you from using your "oh but Johnny did it toooooo" whine, but if you want to compare Knollenberg to someone, at least compare him to someone in his own diminished level. If you actually looked at Congressman Dingell's website you should notice that he does address healthcare issues of his constitutents. He talks about them in the context of legacy costs to manufacturers, etc.

Funny thing too -- Dingell's last post to his website was 1/31/07.

According to Knollenberg's website, he still hasn't done anything since last October.

Chetly Zarko said...

And Democrats have failed to do anything too. Let's see the results?

My counter-point is a fair criticism of your point. You just have no response to it. You know you've built a strawman - and when I point out the strawman can be built for anyone, you cry foul claiming that this blog is "only for Joe". Wave a wand - but that doesn't change the lack of evidence for all your assertions, and lack of logic for your assumptions.

You really had to stretch hard to say Dingell addresses "legacy costs of manufacturing" (in discussing a problem beyond his power to do a thing about, and for a group of people who already have health care, yet you expect Joe to solve it all) as being equal to addressing the health care issues of constituents. It's hilarious. I guess Joe's work in ending counterfeit parts production helps health care too by making manufacturing more competitive.

You haven't proved that Bush, Delay, or Newt "give orders" to Joe. That's a big claim, and certainly requires some evidence.

And you criticize Joe for not doing stuff, like posting to his website. I criticize you for not doing stuff, like admitting Democrats are equally guilty of the same things you accuse Joe of. All things are in context - nothing isolated. Even if this blog is "only about Joe," comparing him to other Congressman is still about Joe (only) since it measures him against the only yardsticks available (and the alternatives if a Democrat is elected). So I haven't deviated a bit - you simply want to ignore that information because it doesn't fit your attack-goal. If you had the courage to at least admit - and condemn - Democrats who have engaged in EXACTLY THE SAME BEHAVIORS YOU CRITICIZE JOE for, which happen to not be unethical or illegal behaviors (demonstrated partially by that the fact that so many do it, and do it more, on the travel issue), you at least have a shred of credibility. As it is, your credibility is shredded. You attack a decent and honorable man from behind your anonymous identity "Secret Blogger."

Whose the coward? Whose the honorable man?

Secret Blogger said...

As a member of Congress, Joe fails to measure up to even a minimal level of competence.

If you want to know just how closely he did obey Tom Delay, Newt Gingrich, and that he does obey George Bush -- look at his voting record. He toes the party line even when it is contrary to the interests and wishes of the people in the 9th District.

I have to remain top secret because my views are not consistent with those of my overly and overtly Republican employer. So if my true identity were known, I could lose my job. It isn't cowardice. It is reality.

And I still disagree with your assertion that I should address other politicians when commenting here. It just isn't relevant. There actions or inactions are not material to Joe Knollenberg's incompetence. Knollenberg has been able to be incompetent all by himself.